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	<title>Comments on: Unit test practice at tilllate.com</title>
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	<description>it and development at europe's leading clubbing community</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bjoern</title>
		<link>http://techblog.tilllate.com/2008/05/11/unit-test-practice-at-tilllatecom/#comment-5162</link>
		<dc:creator>Bjoern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 11:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SimpleTest has one feature that PHPUnit is missing: The ability to crawl websites, submitting forms and clicking on links.

You may argue that this is not unit testing but functional/acceptance testing (an I should use Selenium for that). But you need functional testing too and Simpletest is a good tool for the job, as long as no JavaScript is involved.
I also prefer the Simpletest implementation of mocking to that of PHPUnit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SimpleTest has one feature that PHPUnit is missing: The ability to crawl websites, submitting forms and clicking on links.</p>
<p>You may argue that this is not unit testing but functional/acceptance testing (an I should use Selenium for that). But you need functional testing too and Simpletest is a good tool for the job, as long as no JavaScript is involved.<br />
I also prefer the Simpletest implementation of mocking to that of PHPUnit.</p>
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		<title>By: Les</title>
		<link>http://techblog.tilllate.com/2008/05/11/unit-test-practice-at-tilllatecom/#comment-5160</link>
		<dc:creator>Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 14:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm happy for you that you've now discovered PHPUnit which is a better unit testing framework in more ways than none... Simple Test appears to be, well... Simple?

Don't get me wrong, it's a well developed framework but it lacks a lot of features found in PHPUnit, and the PHPUnit community is more stable and growing at a pace quicker than that of Simple Test.

You'll find that Simple Test as in regards to it's loyal user base appear to be those from Sitepoint's PAD forum for the most part, as from my experience most people not assoc. with that forum use PHPUnit by default.

Few people outside the regular posters of that forum haven't even heard of Simple Test never mind used it... That alone speaks volumes in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy for you that you&#8217;ve now discovered PHPUnit which is a better unit testing framework in more ways than none&#8230; Simple Test appears to be, well&#8230; Simple?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, it&#8217;s a well developed framework but it lacks a lot of features found in PHPUnit, and the PHPUnit community is more stable and growing at a pace quicker than that of Simple Test.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll find that Simple Test as in regards to it&#8217;s loyal user base appear to be those from Sitepoint&#8217;s PAD forum for the most part, as from my experience most people not assoc. with that forum use PHPUnit by default.</p>
<p>Few people outside the regular posters of that forum haven&#8217;t even heard of Simple Test never mind used it&#8230; That alone speaks volumes in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: suls</title>
		<link>http://techblog.tilllate.com/2008/05/11/unit-test-practice-at-tilllatecom/#comment-5159</link>
		<dc:creator>suls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 19:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>afaik views aren't part of unit testing anyway. in my understanding they belong into functional or integration tests..

btw, building after each commit can be annoying: say you forgot to commit one file - the build blows up. so you need another commit and another build.
you can avoid that by setting the idle time after a commit to 5 minutes (or whatever) and CC will collect all changes within those 5 minutes. should be enough time to check the commit logs ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>afaik views aren&#8217;t part of unit testing anyway. in my understanding they belong into functional or integration tests..</p>
<p>btw, building after each commit can be annoying: say you forgot to commit one file - the build blows up. so you need another commit and another build.<br />
you can avoid that by setting the idle time after a commit to 5 minutes (or whatever) and CC will collect all changes within those 5 minutes. should be enough time to check the commit logs <img src='http://techblog.tilllate.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Lars Strojny</title>
		<link>http://techblog.tilllate.com/2008/05/11/unit-test-practice-at-tilllatecom/#comment-5158</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars Strojny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 12:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are using phpUnderControl, which is a really cool layer upon Cruisecontrol for specific PHP integration. So far I'm really happy with it. For code coverage: most of the time we aim 100%, which is not as hard as it sounds (http://flickr.com/photos/mastayoda/2476231742/).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are using phpUnderControl, which is a really cool layer upon Cruisecontrol for specific PHP integration. So far I&#8217;m really happy with it. For code coverage: most of the time we aim 100%, which is not as hard as it sounds (http://flickr.com/photos/mastayoda/2476231742/).</p>
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